This one is great....A "rumor"...posted by LEW ROCKWELL of all people, claiming that Russia says that we are going to bomb Iran...even specifies a date! Of course, there is no evidence to suggest this. No one even tries to present any. But that is all that is needed for RonPaulians. One guy even makes a fool of himself by saying that since it is Lew Rockwell making hte claim, it is almost definitely true, since he would never lie or be fooled by other lies. Wow!
And then, one user presents the "Easy out clause" to cover their stupidity when this obviously does not happen. He claims that it might now happen BECAUSE of this post! That is the great excuse for conspriacy wackos. They make hundreds of predictions...NONE of which come true...and then claim that they were not wrong. It is was just the government had to abort their evil plans because of them. So, not only will they not accept reality, but they try to make themselves heroes for thwarting an evil plan!
So fucking delusional.
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Cheney-Bush junta has decided to bomb Iran on April 4th or 6th! ?
Thanks to soule on the Daily Paul forums for finding this one.Murdering IraniansMarch 28, 2,008Posted by Lew Rockwell at March 28, 2,008 09:35 AMTerrible rumors from Russia continue to swirl around the Middle East that the Cheney-Bush junta has decided to bomb Iran on April 4th or 6th, targeting not only nuclear-power research facilities but ships, planes, antiaircraft installations, and the Iranian pentagon. Apparently the nuclear-power reactor being built by Russian companies will be spared, but not much else. Will it happen? Certainly the neocon hate network is working overtime to make it so. Bush fired the anti-neocon Admiral Fallon.
One thing we know for sure: It will be the typical Bush administration snafu, with horrific consequences for the region and the world, not to speak of the Iranian people, and reap much trouble for the US empire. Indeed, it could mark the end of the empire if, as Bill Lind worries, the Iranians in retaliation cut off water-food-ammo supply routes to US troops in Iraq, and, with the help of Shiite militians, capture large numbers of them. Need I mention that Ron Paul, our champion of peace, is the leading opponent of war on Iran?
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When intelligence of this type comes out, it often has the effect of delaying the plans of TPTB. Let's keep delaying these mattoids anyway that we can until sanity returns to this nation. (Got a couple hundred years?)
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Thursday, March 27, 2008
Ahhhh, those wacky Ron Paul supporters. Part 72
Check out this list of "infractions" from this moron. I can't believe that someone is STILL claiming that the income tax amendment wasn't ratified by enough states. Of course, he doesn't even TRY to give any proof of any of this. We should just take his word for it. Of course, it was ratified by 42 states (out of 36 needed), with 4 states rejecting it and 2 not voting at all (since it wasn't necessary after the 36th state). Thus making it a legal amendment, ratified by more than enough. But again...don't believe facts. This guy says no.
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A list of infractions to our Constitution, your input appreciated!
I wanted to compile a list of infractions to our Constitution and our American values and traditions. Most people are not fully aware of how far we have drifted and when all of the points are compiled it makes a powerful statement. This list is by no means exhaustive. Please contribute if you can. Constitutional -Patriot Act: 1.0/26/2001 billionYou cannot discuss the search with a lawyer in order to properly defend yourself in court, nor can you tell a federal judge to contest it, nor can you tell your spouse, your priest, nobody. This is clearly a violation of the 1st Amendment. Because of the unconstitutionality of the Patriot Act it should have never been passed in the first place. Congress was unable to investigate or even read the PatThe Patriot Act was passed in the emotional aftermath of 9,/11 to give the government tools it needed to fight terrorists. In theory, it sounds like a good idea but upon closer inspection it is clearly unconstitutional in an unprecedented way. For the first time in 230 years of US history a law (the Patriot Act) exists that blatantly violates the 1st and 4th Amendments of the Constitution. • Allows for the government to write their own search warrants. This completely bypasses the nation’ S judicial system, destroying an element of checks and balances. The Constitution states that only a judge can issue a search warrant after being presented with probable cause. The FBI can show up on your doorstep with a self-written search warrant to enter and seize your property. This is clearly in violation of the 4th Amendment.• It is a crime, up to 5 years imprisonment, for anyone who receives such a self-written search warrant to talk about it, to anyone. That means riot Act as they had 15 minutes to read the 300 page bill before voting on it. Little did they know how unprecedented and unconstitutional the doublespeak titled Patriot Act was. The Patriot Act defines a "terrorist" as anyone who opposes a federal government program or policy. By that definition, just reading this posting would qualify someone to have their God-given Constitutional protections usurped by the Patriot Act. Patriot Act Amends FISA-10th Amendment (States Rights)Drug war, etc. [ b ]-Republic not DemocracyAsk 99% of Americans what kind of government the US is supposed to be and they will answer “ Democracy” . The word democracy is not mentioned once in the Constitution. The US is a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy. In a Constitutional Republic the ultimate sovereignty rests with the individual and the guaranteed rights cannot be taken away by anyone. Democracy was feared by our founding fathers. In a pure democracy 51% of the population can take away the right of the other 49%. This is what is known as the tyranny of the majority. Put another way, democracy is like two wolves and a sheep deciding what is for dinner. In a Constitutional Republic, the sheep has a gun. -Federal Income Tax: 1,913-Completely unconstitutional. It is a direct unapportioned tax. The Constitution clearly states that all direct taxes must be apportioned, or divided amongst the population equally. -The number of states required to ratify the new amendment was never met.-On average, about 25% of your income is confiscated from this tax. This money goes to pay the interest on the currency that was created by the Fed and loaned to the government. The vast majority of the money is not spent on essential programs or services. -No statute or law that exists that requires you to pay this tax. -Federal Reserve1,913 was one of the darkest years for American liberty as it saw the passage of the federal income tax and the Federal Reserve System. The barons of the industrial revolution and elite Europeans (Rockefeller, Morgan, Warburg, Rothschild, and others) sought to create a central banking system in the US. The story of how they secretly conspired to force the Federal Reserve System on a weary American public is well documented in the book and video documentaries online The Creature From Jekyll Island. The Federal Reserve is the central bank of the US. It is the institution that creates the fiat currency, which is backed by nothing. Today, dollars have no intrinsic value. The Fed controls the interest rates and the money supply (inflation). The value of the currency is regulated by the money supply, more money in circulation = less value of currency. The Fed does not simply supply the US government with money, it loans it at interest. This system produces a perpetual debt that can never be paid off by the government. Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, And other founding fathers were well aware of the dangers of the central banking system to liberty. “ The refusal of King George III to allow the colonists to operate an honest money system, which freed the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, was probably the prime cause of the Revolution” . ~ Benjamin FranklinThe Constitution clearly states that only gold and silver may be used for currency and that Congress alone has the authority “ To coin money and regulate the value thereof” .Since 1913, the dollars has lost 97% of its purchasing power. Inflation = tax. -Fed is a private corporation-it makes its own policies, Congress neglects its oversight duties. The Federal Reserve System is consistent with the English central banking system that the founding fathers sought to escape from when they declared independence in the Revolutionary War. A plank in the communist manifesto. -Cruel and Unusual Punishment-Military Commissions Act: 1.0/17/2006 billionLoss of Habeas Corpus-Declaration of WarNorth American Union/NAFTAAmerican Values and Tradition-Foreign Policy – Wolfowitz Doctrine, policeman of the world, permanent global American hegemony, global empire, interventionism, foreign aid. -REAL ID-Defense Authorization Act of 2007: 1.0/17/2006 billionThe DAA allows the president to station military troops anywhere in the United States and take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of the governor or local authorities, in order to “ Suppress public disorder. ” By revising the two-century-old Insurrection Act, the law in effect repeals the Posse Comitatus Act, which placed strict prohibitions on military involvement in domestic law enforcement. Defense Authorization Act contained a “ Widely opposed provision to allow the President more control over the National Guard [ adopting ] changes to the Insurrection Act, which will make it easier for this or any future President to use the military to restore domestic order without the consent of the nation’ S governors. ” We fail our Constitution, neglecting the rights of the States, when we make it easier for the President to declare martial law and trample on local and state sovereignty. ”The Constitution was written in order to ensure liberty and to restrain the government so that it always remains a servant of the people. The Constitution is a blueprint for human liberty. The rights granted within it are God-given, absolute, and cannot be changed by Congress.It is imperative that we fight to get these liberties returned to us in full as soon as possible.
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A list of infractions to our Constitution, your input appreciated!
I wanted to compile a list of infractions to our Constitution and our American values and traditions. Most people are not fully aware of how far we have drifted and when all of the points are compiled it makes a powerful statement. This list is by no means exhaustive. Please contribute if you can. Constitutional -Patriot Act: 1.0/26/2001 billionYou cannot discuss the search with a lawyer in order to properly defend yourself in court, nor can you tell a federal judge to contest it, nor can you tell your spouse, your priest, nobody. This is clearly a violation of the 1st Amendment. Because of the unconstitutionality of the Patriot Act it should have never been passed in the first place. Congress was unable to investigate or even read the PatThe Patriot Act was passed in the emotional aftermath of 9,/11 to give the government tools it needed to fight terrorists. In theory, it sounds like a good idea but upon closer inspection it is clearly unconstitutional in an unprecedented way. For the first time in 230 years of US history a law (the Patriot Act) exists that blatantly violates the 1st and 4th Amendments of the Constitution. • Allows for the government to write their own search warrants. This completely bypasses the nation’ S judicial system, destroying an element of checks and balances. The Constitution states that only a judge can issue a search warrant after being presented with probable cause. The FBI can show up on your doorstep with a self-written search warrant to enter and seize your property. This is clearly in violation of the 4th Amendment.• It is a crime, up to 5 years imprisonment, for anyone who receives such a self-written search warrant to talk about it, to anyone. That means riot Act as they had 15 minutes to read the 300 page bill before voting on it. Little did they know how unprecedented and unconstitutional the doublespeak titled Patriot Act was. The Patriot Act defines a "terrorist" as anyone who opposes a federal government program or policy. By that definition, just reading this posting would qualify someone to have their God-given Constitutional protections usurped by the Patriot Act. Patriot Act Amends FISA-10th Amendment (States Rights)Drug war, etc. [ b ]-Republic not DemocracyAsk 99% of Americans what kind of government the US is supposed to be and they will answer “ Democracy” . The word democracy is not mentioned once in the Constitution. The US is a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy. In a Constitutional Republic the ultimate sovereignty rests with the individual and the guaranteed rights cannot be taken away by anyone. Democracy was feared by our founding fathers. In a pure democracy 51% of the population can take away the right of the other 49%. This is what is known as the tyranny of the majority. Put another way, democracy is like two wolves and a sheep deciding what is for dinner. In a Constitutional Republic, the sheep has a gun. -Federal Income Tax: 1,913-Completely unconstitutional. It is a direct unapportioned tax. The Constitution clearly states that all direct taxes must be apportioned, or divided amongst the population equally. -The number of states required to ratify the new amendment was never met.-On average, about 25% of your income is confiscated from this tax. This money goes to pay the interest on the currency that was created by the Fed and loaned to the government. The vast majority of the money is not spent on essential programs or services. -No statute or law that exists that requires you to pay this tax. -Federal Reserve1,913 was one of the darkest years for American liberty as it saw the passage of the federal income tax and the Federal Reserve System. The barons of the industrial revolution and elite Europeans (Rockefeller, Morgan, Warburg, Rothschild, and others) sought to create a central banking system in the US. The story of how they secretly conspired to force the Federal Reserve System on a weary American public is well documented in the book and video documentaries online The Creature From Jekyll Island. The Federal Reserve is the central bank of the US. It is the institution that creates the fiat currency, which is backed by nothing. Today, dollars have no intrinsic value. The Fed controls the interest rates and the money supply (inflation). The value of the currency is regulated by the money supply, more money in circulation = less value of currency. The Fed does not simply supply the US government with money, it loans it at interest. This system produces a perpetual debt that can never be paid off by the government. Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, And other founding fathers were well aware of the dangers of the central banking system to liberty. “ The refusal of King George III to allow the colonists to operate an honest money system, which freed the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, was probably the prime cause of the Revolution” . ~ Benjamin FranklinThe Constitution clearly states that only gold and silver may be used for currency and that Congress alone has the authority “ To coin money and regulate the value thereof” .Since 1913, the dollars has lost 97% of its purchasing power. Inflation = tax. -Fed is a private corporation-it makes its own policies, Congress neglects its oversight duties. The Federal Reserve System is consistent with the English central banking system that the founding fathers sought to escape from when they declared independence in the Revolutionary War. A plank in the communist manifesto. -Cruel and Unusual Punishment-Military Commissions Act: 1.0/17/2006 billionLoss of Habeas Corpus-Declaration of WarNorth American Union/NAFTAAmerican Values and Tradition-Foreign Policy – Wolfowitz Doctrine, policeman of the world, permanent global American hegemony, global empire, interventionism, foreign aid. -REAL ID-Defense Authorization Act of 2007: 1.0/17/2006 billionThe DAA allows the president to station military troops anywhere in the United States and take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of the governor or local authorities, in order to “ Suppress public disorder. ” By revising the two-century-old Insurrection Act, the law in effect repeals the Posse Comitatus Act, which placed strict prohibitions on military involvement in domestic law enforcement. Defense Authorization Act contained a “ Widely opposed provision to allow the President more control over the National Guard [ adopting ] changes to the Insurrection Act, which will make it easier for this or any future President to use the military to restore domestic order without the consent of the nation’ S governors. ” We fail our Constitution, neglecting the rights of the States, when we make it easier for the President to declare martial law and trample on local and state sovereignty. ”The Constitution was written in order to ensure liberty and to restrain the government so that it always remains a servant of the people. The Constitution is a blueprint for human liberty. The rights granted within it are God-given, absolute, and cannot be changed by Congress.It is imperative that we fight to get these liberties returned to us in full as soon as possible.
Ahhhh, those IGNORANT Ron Paulians!
Now, I know what you are thinking..."Ignorant? I thought they were Wacky!" Don't worry. they still are wacky. But this example is more about their ignorance than their wackiness. This also is not a link to the Ron Paul Forums. This is a story that happened in my city last week. I thought I was share it with you to show the kind of people Ron Paulians really are.
I am from a city with a NY State university. Last week, a bunch of anti-War people, most with Ron Paul crap on decided to have a rally on campus. They then decided to take their little rally to the streets of the city. They march down a busy highway with their silly signs and their silly chants. I am not talking about Main Street where the traffic is stop and go and never more than 10-15 MPH. These morons were on a road where traffic zips by at up to 50 MPH. It is also only two lanes in each direction.
So these idiots were walking ON the road. they were COMPLETELY blocking one of the two lanes in one direction, and half blocking the other lane. In other words, cars that would normally be travelling 50 MPH had to stop completely, which is very dangerous during the busy time of day, which this was. (They DID cause one accident due to this.)
Anyway, I passed by on the other side of the road as I was heading to the plaza that this was happening outside of. I noticed just how much they were blocking the traffic because I knew I was not going to go back that way if they were still there.
Understandably, the cops were called in the interest of the drivers' safety, as well as the safety of the morons who were protesting. By the time they had arrived, I had already conducted the business I was doing and stuck around to check it out. The cops formed a human chain on the road and explained that they were not allowed to block traffic and that what they were ding was very dangerous to everyone involved.
At this point, one dumb bitch screamed that he was wrong, and that they had a first amendment right to do what they were doing. One cop calmly explained that they could not block traffic. Of course, he is correct. Free speech does NOT give you the right to break other laws.
At this point, there were only 4 cops and about 40 morons. And the morons were winning. As the cops would try to corral them back to the side of the road, some would run around the human chain and back onto the road. I saw one almost get nailed by a car doing 25 MPH. It would have been great f he had. Maybe then they would have realized what they were doing. Then another tried to break through the linked arms of the cops and the cops stood their ground. The idiot fought back and started really shoving the cops and trying to break through the arms.
At this point, the cops were outnumbered and in a very dangerous situation. Some jackasses were waving signs threatening to hit the cops. A few actually DID swing their signs at them, and at least one girl hit one cop in the back. That is where the cops did the right thing and brought out the pepper spray. In the end, 10 students were arrested.
But wait...that is not the funniest part. After one ignorant fool was bailed out, they interviewed him on our local news. He said that he was not worried about going to court because it would DEFINITELY be thrown out. when asked why, he smugly looked into the camera and explained that when he was being arrested, he asked why the cop was not reading him his Miranda rights and that the cop snapped back "You watch too much TV, kid. I don't have to do that now." So, in this little boy's mind, this was an automatic Get Out of Jail Free card.
Of course, the cop WAS right. On both counts. Miranda Rights must be read before questioning, or else nothing the defendant says can be used against him. That is it. There was no questioning involved in this case.
Of course, why did this know it all think that he was home free? Because he DOES obviously watch too much TV.
That is the typical Ron Paulian. Just like the dumb bitch whining about her first amendment rights to dangerously block traffic on a fast highway. They think they know everything, yet are wrong about pretty much everything.
Of course, the protestors trootted out a video tape that they claimed showed the cops spraying the pepper spray with no provocation. This was obviously bullshit. In typical fashion, the video conveniently begins AFTER the protestors started the fight. But the funny thing is, they apparently didn't realize that there was a couple of security cameras due to a nearby bank, as well as the dashboard cameras in the cop cars. Both showed that the portestors obviously started it. They were made to look stupid.
Some might be expelled from school now. Just 2 months away from graduation. Awesome!
I am from a city with a NY State university. Last week, a bunch of anti-War people, most with Ron Paul crap on decided to have a rally on campus. They then decided to take their little rally to the streets of the city. They march down a busy highway with their silly signs and their silly chants. I am not talking about Main Street where the traffic is stop and go and never more than 10-15 MPH. These morons were on a road where traffic zips by at up to 50 MPH. It is also only two lanes in each direction.
So these idiots were walking ON the road. they were COMPLETELY blocking one of the two lanes in one direction, and half blocking the other lane. In other words, cars that would normally be travelling 50 MPH had to stop completely, which is very dangerous during the busy time of day, which this was. (They DID cause one accident due to this.)
Anyway, I passed by on the other side of the road as I was heading to the plaza that this was happening outside of. I noticed just how much they were blocking the traffic because I knew I was not going to go back that way if they were still there.
Understandably, the cops were called in the interest of the drivers' safety, as well as the safety of the morons who were protesting. By the time they had arrived, I had already conducted the business I was doing and stuck around to check it out. The cops formed a human chain on the road and explained that they were not allowed to block traffic and that what they were ding was very dangerous to everyone involved.
At this point, one dumb bitch screamed that he was wrong, and that they had a first amendment right to do what they were doing. One cop calmly explained that they could not block traffic. Of course, he is correct. Free speech does NOT give you the right to break other laws.
At this point, there were only 4 cops and about 40 morons. And the morons were winning. As the cops would try to corral them back to the side of the road, some would run around the human chain and back onto the road. I saw one almost get nailed by a car doing 25 MPH. It would have been great f he had. Maybe then they would have realized what they were doing. Then another tried to break through the linked arms of the cops and the cops stood their ground. The idiot fought back and started really shoving the cops and trying to break through the arms.
At this point, the cops were outnumbered and in a very dangerous situation. Some jackasses were waving signs threatening to hit the cops. A few actually DID swing their signs at them, and at least one girl hit one cop in the back. That is where the cops did the right thing and brought out the pepper spray. In the end, 10 students were arrested.
But wait...that is not the funniest part. After one ignorant fool was bailed out, they interviewed him on our local news. He said that he was not worried about going to court because it would DEFINITELY be thrown out. when asked why, he smugly looked into the camera and explained that when he was being arrested, he asked why the cop was not reading him his Miranda rights and that the cop snapped back "You watch too much TV, kid. I don't have to do that now." So, in this little boy's mind, this was an automatic Get Out of Jail Free card.
Of course, the cop WAS right. On both counts. Miranda Rights must be read before questioning, or else nothing the defendant says can be used against him. That is it. There was no questioning involved in this case.
Of course, why did this know it all think that he was home free? Because he DOES obviously watch too much TV.
That is the typical Ron Paulian. Just like the dumb bitch whining about her first amendment rights to dangerously block traffic on a fast highway. They think they know everything, yet are wrong about pretty much everything.
Of course, the protestors trootted out a video tape that they claimed showed the cops spraying the pepper spray with no provocation. This was obviously bullshit. In typical fashion, the video conveniently begins AFTER the protestors started the fight. But the funny thing is, they apparently didn't realize that there was a couple of security cameras due to a nearby bank, as well as the dashboard cameras in the cop cars. Both showed that the portestors obviously started it. They were made to look stupid.
Some might be expelled from school now. Just 2 months away from graduation. Awesome!
Wednesday, March 26, 2008
Ahhhh, those wacky Ron Paul supporters. Part 71
This is great...a couple of counties (out of what? several dozen) have had limited success. And now they think that it is happened across all the states. September is going to be SOOOOO much fun. Pull up a lawn chair and be prepared to read the Ron Paul Forums the first week in September. And get ready for a great laugh at their expense.
I especially love how they talk about being disenfranchised, yet that is EXACTLY what they are trying to do to the majority of voters who chose McCain. And again...they somehow think that this would be a GOOD thing for Ron Paul. As if everyone who voted for McCain who now had their votes not matter would simply say "Well played, old man. I shall vote for you now."
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How far could we take it?
Let's say Paul does get the nomination through the successes of the delegates (if they continue to do as well as they have). If we do that, the national convention will be full of Paul supporters... Free to do what they want. From what I know, the entire platform could be changed. Everything people think the GOP stands for can be changed to what it should be, and used to be, for. How much farther could we go? I mean... Could we even elect a new chairman/chairwomen of the GOP?I'd like to remind everyone that the neocons were a small group when they first started... They eventually did what we are doing now, and were successful. Now look where they are. Influencing millions in their horrible ideas, and even their own whole channel. I, however, believe we can pull it back.
I especially love how they talk about being disenfranchised, yet that is EXACTLY what they are trying to do to the majority of voters who chose McCain. And again...they somehow think that this would be a GOOD thing for Ron Paul. As if everyone who voted for McCain who now had their votes not matter would simply say "Well played, old man. I shall vote for you now."
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How far could we take it?
Let's say Paul does get the nomination through the successes of the delegates (if they continue to do as well as they have). If we do that, the national convention will be full of Paul supporters... Free to do what they want. From what I know, the entire platform could be changed. Everything people think the GOP stands for can be changed to what it should be, and used to be, for. How much farther could we go? I mean... Could we even elect a new chairman/chairwomen of the GOP?I'd like to remind everyone that the neocons were a small group when they first started... They eventually did what we are doing now, and were successful. Now look where they are. Influencing millions in their horrible ideas, and even their own whole channel. I, however, believe we can pull it back.
Tuesday, March 25, 2008
Ahhhh, those wacky Ron Paul supporters. Part 70
This guy's name certainly is appropriate.
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Warcrimes update from the UK
One child is being killed in Iraq and Afganistan EVERY HOUR.The current and previous British Government (Tony Blair and co.) Are currently being investigated by the Metropolitan Police for the following crimes.Offenses against the International Criminal Court Act 2,001 (Sections 51 & 52)GenocideCrimes against HumanityWar crimesCombat Ancillary to War CrimesOffenses against the Nurenburg Principles (Articles 6 & 7)Crimes against Peace, and complicity in a Crime against PeaceOffenses against the Person Act 1,861Murder, incitment to murder and conspiacy to commit murder Offenses against the Criminal Law Act 1,977Conspiricy to commit genocideCrimes against HumanityWar crimesEvery time a Iraqi or Afgani is killed or injured, every adult in the UK who has paid taxes since the war started, has commited the crime of 'Conduct Ancillary to Genocide', 'Conduct Ancillary to Crimes against Humanity' and 'Conduct Ancillary to War Crimes' under section 52 of the International Criminal Court Act. And every resident of the UK is also complicitly complicit in a crime against peace. For those with concerns, they must be aware that ignorance of the law is NO EXCUSE, however courts may show leaniency if immediate action had been taken by that person, when it has been brought to their attention of the criminal acts they have undertaken.As a UK citizen, if you continue to pay taxes to the government, legally you are criminally liable for these actions, including 'Conduct ancillary to genocide'.Check out this video on YouTube (first of four parts) Http://www.youtube.com/watch? V=EwZt6bvyMqIUK citizens should be prepared to face prosecution if they continue to comply with government policy, maybe US too.
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Warcrimes update from the UK
One child is being killed in Iraq and Afganistan EVERY HOUR.The current and previous British Government (Tony Blair and co.) Are currently being investigated by the Metropolitan Police for the following crimes.Offenses against the International Criminal Court Act 2,001 (Sections 51 & 52)GenocideCrimes against HumanityWar crimesCombat Ancillary to War CrimesOffenses against the Nurenburg Principles (Articles 6 & 7)Crimes against Peace, and complicity in a Crime against PeaceOffenses against the Person Act 1,861Murder, incitment to murder and conspiacy to commit murder Offenses against the Criminal Law Act 1,977Conspiricy to commit genocideCrimes against HumanityWar crimesEvery time a Iraqi or Afgani is killed or injured, every adult in the UK who has paid taxes since the war started, has commited the crime of 'Conduct Ancillary to Genocide', 'Conduct Ancillary to Crimes against Humanity' and 'Conduct Ancillary to War Crimes' under section 52 of the International Criminal Court Act. And every resident of the UK is also complicitly complicit in a crime against peace. For those with concerns, they must be aware that ignorance of the law is NO EXCUSE, however courts may show leaniency if immediate action had been taken by that person, when it has been brought to their attention of the criminal acts they have undertaken.As a UK citizen, if you continue to pay taxes to the government, legally you are criminally liable for these actions, including 'Conduct ancillary to genocide'.Check out this video on YouTube (first of four parts) Http://www.youtube.com/watch? V=EwZt6bvyMqIUK citizens should be prepared to face prosecution if they continue to comply with government policy, maybe US too.
Ahhhh, those wacky Ron Paul supporters. Part 69
Remember...these are people who consider themsleves to be more intelligent than that average person. and then they post shit like this. Amazing.
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Well the campaign seems to be picking up steam again!
However, It was also before the dec. fundraiser that scared the @$! Out of corrupt authority and initiated the blackout of Dr Paul. I see everyone avoiding talking about 1 subject. And if the rumors and fears are true, I know the talking I have been doing to bring people to www.givemeliberty.org, would put me on this roundup list.Not as high on the list as the posters on www.halturnershow.com, but on it nonetheless.That subject is, what if it's true? What if the government really tries to overthrow the Constitution?The news stories reporting new directives and continuity of government laws are highly suspect as well as detainment camps fully staffed and without inmates.I do not expect any replies to this post but ask that you consider "What if?"
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Well the campaign seems to be picking up steam again!
However, It was also before the dec. fundraiser that scared the @$! Out of corrupt authority and initiated the blackout of Dr Paul. I see everyone avoiding talking about 1 subject. And if the rumors and fears are true, I know the talking I have been doing to bring people to www.givemeliberty.org, would put me on this roundup list.Not as high on the list as the posters on www.halturnershow.com, but on it nonetheless.That subject is, what if it's true? What if the government really tries to overthrow the Constitution?The news stories reporting new directives and continuity of government laws are highly suspect as well as detainment camps fully staffed and without inmates.I do not expect any replies to this post but ask that you consider "What if?"
Monday, March 24, 2008
Ahhhh, those wacky Ron Paul supporters. Part 68
This one is great...A moron harasses a 17 year old girl at 3:00 AM by drunkenly pounding on the door. Then he wonders why he is charged with trespassing, along with drunk and disorderly. The best part is, to get legal advice, the first place he turns is the RON PAUL FORUMS!
Predictably, he got a LOT of horrible advice.
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Any lawyers here know criminal law?
I need some advice quickly, and this forum to me basically is the largest collection of liberty minded people I know of, so I wanted to ask a question. Since the answer is needed fairly quickly, and I have no money for a lawyer, I really hope someone reads it here and has an answer... perhaps the mods will move this, but I know my best chance for an answer in time is in the section...
I was at a friends house last weekend.. woke them up in the middle of the night because I was stuck in their yard.. the home owner I have been friends with for 10 years now was not at home at 3 AM.. her 17 year old daughter was. I pounded on the door persistently in an effort to wake up this person knowing she would be less than happy, but her daughter who was home alone called the cops instead...
OK, that was a mistake, but I had little choice because I was miles from anything and had no phone with me...
The issue I have is that I was charged with disorderly conduct.. a catch all, and criminal trespass. the charge of disorderly I have less issue with, the trouble I have is the charge of criminal trespass.The next day after a night in jail and a 250 dollar impound, I called the homeowner who told me she was NOT pressing charges. It is the deputy who pressed trespassing charges against me...
I was never asked to leave that night... (nobody answered the door), nor have I ever been in the ten years I have known this woman.. I have always been welcome to stop by. Can a deputy press charges of criminal trespass on his own against someone on private property even if the owner of that property is not pressing charges? ? ? ?
In fact I am still welcome to enter onto this private property by the owner even after this.. doesn't "trespass" mean you are on property you know you are not allowed on and have been asked to leave? Can a deputy press charges of trespass against someone even if the land/home owner is not pressing charges?
BTW, this is Ohio
Predictably, he got a LOT of horrible advice.
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Join Date: Nov 2,007Posts: 770
Any lawyers here know criminal law?
I need some advice quickly, and this forum to me basically is the largest collection of liberty minded people I know of, so I wanted to ask a question. Since the answer is needed fairly quickly, and I have no money for a lawyer, I really hope someone reads it here and has an answer... perhaps the mods will move this, but I know my best chance for an answer in time is in the section...
I was at a friends house last weekend.. woke them up in the middle of the night because I was stuck in their yard.. the home owner I have been friends with for 10 years now was not at home at 3 AM.. her 17 year old daughter was. I pounded on the door persistently in an effort to wake up this person knowing she would be less than happy, but her daughter who was home alone called the cops instead...
OK, that was a mistake, but I had little choice because I was miles from anything and had no phone with me...
The issue I have is that I was charged with disorderly conduct.. a catch all, and criminal trespass. the charge of disorderly I have less issue with, the trouble I have is the charge of criminal trespass.The next day after a night in jail and a 250 dollar impound, I called the homeowner who told me she was NOT pressing charges. It is the deputy who pressed trespassing charges against me...
I was never asked to leave that night... (nobody answered the door), nor have I ever been in the ten years I have known this woman.. I have always been welcome to stop by. Can a deputy press charges of criminal trespass on his own against someone on private property even if the owner of that property is not pressing charges? ? ? ?
In fact I am still welcome to enter onto this private property by the owner even after this.. doesn't "trespass" mean you are on property you know you are not allowed on and have been asked to leave? Can a deputy press charges of trespass against someone even if the land/home owner is not pressing charges?
BTW, this is Ohio
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