Do these iditos realize that this is not the first election we have had? And that EVERY 4 years, a candidate gets the majority needed, and still, he gets more than enough support actually showing up for the later primaries and caucuses to carry them easily. And agian...Ron Paul has been getting FIVE PECENT! At best. So you would need over 90% of John McCain's supporters to not bother voting. Not going to happen.
But again, I guess when you are grasping at straws, you can't be picky about which straw you grab.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=126663
tangent4ronpaul Senior Member About:Join Date: May 2007Posts: 775
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Don't forget that his fundraising will slow down, as will the perceived need to "win states" by his campaign.
I bet he's just going to try coasting through the rest of the primaries...
-n
Monday, March 10, 2008
Ahhhh, those wacky Ron Paul supporters. Part 41
Here is the latest grasping for straws by the RonPaulians. My favorite part of this is how they are still under the impression that EVERY unbound delegate is going to vote for Ron Paul. Even the three heads of the party for each state which are 99.9999% guaranteed to go for the winner of that state's primary/caucus. Also, how they think that McCain is completely unaware of what everyone with an internet connection knows, which is that Ron Paul is trying to subvert the Constitution and democracy and steal the nomination with this delegate scheme, and therefore are not going to very carefully choose the delegates they send to represent him. They seem to think that they have 100% of the delegates in every state. How on earth do they get through life without any sense of reality?
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=127690
robertwerden Senior Member About:Join Date: Oct 2007Posts: 450
McCain only has 720 bound delegates. Check your state here
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21660914http://opengopconvention.com/images/delegates_bound.pdf
McCain has 720 bound delegates. The rest are free to choose Ron Paul at National Convention
State Delegates Bound/Not Bound
Alabama 47 bound 19
Alaska 28 not bound 3
American Samoa 09 not bound but may be instructed
Arizona 52 not bound 53
Arkansas 34 bound for 1 1
California 172 bound for 2 158
Colorado 46 bound for 1 0
Connecticut 29 bound for 1 27
Delaware 18 bound for 1 18
Dist. of Columbia 19 bound until released 16
Florida 113 bound for 2 unless national convention overrules or unless released 57
Georgia 71 bound for 2 12
Guam 9 ?
Hawaii 19 bound for 1 if run as committed
Idaho 31 bound for 1
Illinois 70 not bound ? 57 Congressional Districts directly elected, committed 54
Indiana 56 27 bound for 1, 29 not bound
Iowa 40 not bound 0
Kansas 39 bound for 1 0
Kentucky 45 bound
Louisiana 46 bound for 1 0
Maine 20 not bound 0
Maryland 37 bound for 2 37
Massachusetts 43 bound for 1 18
Michigan 61 bound for 1 6
Minnesota 40 generally not bound, 16 may be bound for 1 0
Mississippi 35 bound until released
Missouri 58 bound for 1 58
Montana 24 not bound 0
Nebraska 32 bound for 2 unless candidate gets less than 35% on 1st ballot
Nevada 32 not bound 4
New Hampshire 24 bound 7
New Jersey 52 not bound 52
New Mexico 32 bound for 1New York 101 not bound 101
Northern Marianas 9 not bound but may be instructed
North Carolina 69 ? allocated by state party chairman reflecting division in primary
North Dakota 26 bound for 1 5
Ohio 88 not bound 85
Oklahoma 41 bound until released 32
Oregon 30 bound for 2 unless candidate receives less than 35%
Pennsylvania 74 not bound
Puerto Rico 23 bound for 1
Rhode Island 19 bound, winner takes all statewide 13
South Carolina 46 bound unless candidate receives less than 30% 19
South Dakota 26 bound for 1
Tennessee 54 bound for 2 17
Texas 138 bound for 3 92
Utah 35 ? 0
Vermont 17 bound for 2 17
Virginia 63 bound for 1 60
US Virgin Islands 9 ?
Washington 40 not bound 14
West Virginia 30 bound for 1 0
Wisconsin 40 bound until released unless fail to receive 1/3 31
Wyoming 27 technically not bound 0
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=127690
robertwerden Senior Member About:Join Date: Oct 2007Posts: 450
McCain only has 720 bound delegates. Check your state here
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21660914http://opengopconvention.com/images/delegates_bound.pdf
McCain has 720 bound delegates. The rest are free to choose Ron Paul at National Convention
State Delegates Bound/Not Bound
Alabama 47 bound 19
Alaska 28 not bound 3
American Samoa 09 not bound but may be instructed
Arizona 52 not bound 53
Arkansas 34 bound for 1 1
California 172 bound for 2 158
Colorado 46 bound for 1 0
Connecticut 29 bound for 1 27
Delaware 18 bound for 1 18
Dist. of Columbia 19 bound until released 16
Florida 113 bound for 2 unless national convention overrules or unless released 57
Georgia 71 bound for 2 12
Guam 9 ?
Hawaii 19 bound for 1 if run as committed
Idaho 31 bound for 1
Illinois 70 not bound ? 57 Congressional Districts directly elected, committed 54
Indiana 56 27 bound for 1, 29 not bound
Iowa 40 not bound 0
Kansas 39 bound for 1 0
Kentucky 45 bound
Louisiana 46 bound for 1 0
Maine 20 not bound 0
Maryland 37 bound for 2 37
Massachusetts 43 bound for 1 18
Michigan 61 bound for 1 6
Minnesota 40 generally not bound, 16 may be bound for 1 0
Mississippi 35 bound until released
Missouri 58 bound for 1 58
Montana 24 not bound 0
Nebraska 32 bound for 2 unless candidate gets less than 35% on 1st ballot
Nevada 32 not bound 4
New Hampshire 24 bound 7
New Jersey 52 not bound 52
New Mexico 32 bound for 1New York 101 not bound 101
Northern Marianas 9 not bound but may be instructed
North Carolina 69 ? allocated by state party chairman reflecting division in primary
North Dakota 26 bound for 1 5
Ohio 88 not bound 85
Oklahoma 41 bound until released 32
Oregon 30 bound for 2 unless candidate receives less than 35%
Pennsylvania 74 not bound
Puerto Rico 23 bound for 1
Rhode Island 19 bound, winner takes all statewide 13
South Carolina 46 bound unless candidate receives less than 30% 19
South Dakota 26 bound for 1
Tennessee 54 bound for 2 17
Texas 138 bound for 3 92
Utah 35 ? 0
Vermont 17 bound for 2 17
Virginia 63 bound for 1 60
US Virgin Islands 9 ?
Washington 40 not bound 14
West Virginia 30 bound for 1 0
Wisconsin 40 bound until released unless fail to receive 1/3 31
Wyoming 27 technically not bound 0
Sunday, March 9, 2008
Ron Paul still has support? Doesn't look like it...
RonPaulians keep talking about how Ron Paul has vowed to stay in the race as long as his supporters still want him to, and as long as the contributions keep coming in. Well, OK then...looks like it is time to drop out. As you can see, he has raised a total of $910 today. And while the time makes it look like he still has over an hour to go, he doesn't. It is just that Ron Paul is too dumb to realize it is Daylight Saving Time now. This screenshot was taken at 11:53. (And as I type this, it is still at $910 at 11:59PM.) He had a whopping 18 people donate. Only 6 of them new donors.
So there you go Ron Paul..you said you'd stay in as long as people wanted you to. Well, they stopped caring. Time to drop out and save yourself the further embarrassment. You've received enough donations to go on your national book tour. That was your plan all along. Time to start.
So there you go Ron Paul..you said you'd stay in as long as people wanted you to. Well, they stopped caring. Time to drop out and save yourself the further embarrassment. You've received enough donations to go on your national book tour. That was your plan all along. Time to start.
Ahhhh, those wacky Ron Paul supporters. Part 40
RonPaulians continue to play a game of "Let's see how many websites TOS we can violate!" I guess that is what desperation does.
(I also like how this 15 year old is planning on running for office in two years. Thinking he will not be made to look foolish.)
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=127393
nate895 Senior Member About:Join Date: Dec 2007Posts: 2,455
Idea to get millions of youtube hits in a few minutes
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I was talking with a friend and he said he posted a normal video on youtube but tagged and titled it with a bunch of "inappropriate," shall we say, references, and he got 100,000 hits in a few seconds, that is what I call mass distribution. It might hurt the campaign if the Evangelicals think that is what we do all the time though.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------"The principle for which we contend is bound to reassert itself though it may be at another time and in another form."-Jefferson Davis, President of the Confederate States
The time is now, Ron Paul is that form.
Candidate for 2010 18th Washington State Legislative District. Website to be setup eventually.
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue! --Barry Goldwater
(I also like how this 15 year old is planning on running for office in two years. Thinking he will not be made to look foolish.)
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=127393
nate895 Senior Member About:Join Date: Dec 2007Posts: 2,455
Idea to get millions of youtube hits in a few minutes
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I was talking with a friend and he said he posted a normal video on youtube but tagged and titled it with a bunch of "inappropriate," shall we say, references, and he got 100,000 hits in a few seconds, that is what I call mass distribution. It might hurt the campaign if the Evangelicals think that is what we do all the time though.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------"The principle for which we contend is bound to reassert itself though it may be at another time and in another form."-Jefferson Davis, President of the Confederate States
The time is now, Ron Paul is that form.
Candidate for 2010 18th Washington State Legislative District. Website to be setup eventually.
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue! --Barry Goldwater
Ahhhh, those wacky Ron Paul supporters. Part 39
Desperate of what? Desperate that the man now has 4.6% support, up from 4.5%? No, seriously...what would they be desperate of? Ron Paul is not a threat to ANYTHING. EXcept a stable life for his cult followers like you. No one is desperate to keep Ron Paul down, because he does it himself. And you do it as well by pissing EVERYONE off. So why would they be panicking? Ron Paul is done. Even he has pointed out that he is not going to win. You can pathetically interpret it all you want, but he has known ALL ALONG that he was not going to be president. He does not LIKE what you do in his name. Ron Paul HATES you. For real. Trust me.
There is no revolution. There never was. All there was was a bnuch of socially inept losers annoying people and living in a dream world.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=127354
IPSecure Senior Member About:Join Date: Jan 2008Location: EarthPosts: 454
The Recent MSM Lies Regarding Dr. Paul 'Dropping Out' Is Proof They Are Desperate!
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The Recent MSM Lies Regarding Dr. Paul 'Dropping Out' Is Proof They Are Desperate!
They are trying to, but cannot stop the Revolution!
They are in panic mode!!!
Saturday, March 8, 2008
Is this PROOF that Obama spammers are as coordinated as Ron Paul's were?
Last night I posted a serious warning to Obama spammers that told them to remember what happened when RonPaulians spammed Digg with and endless supply of crap and then used coordinated efforts to get every one to the front page. It worked for a couple weeks, and then it got the vast majority of diggers annoyed enough to bury them as the SPAM that they were. It all snowballed from there, leading the spammers to try to cheat the system by violating Digg's TOS and creating multiple accounts, which led to those accounts becoming basically useless, and now it is impossible to get a Ron Paul story to the front page. (Thank god.)
I points out that if the Obama spammers keep it up, they could be facing the same fate as early as April...a good 6 months before the general election. Half a year of not seeing ANY Obama story on the front page. Ever.
A funny thing happened to my submission. At one point late last night (early this morning, actually) the story had at least 15 Diggs. For the hell of it, I checked the WHO DUGG THIS list and the Digg history of the people who dugg it. I was shocked to find several people with Obama in their candidates list, and who joined Digg in the last month. I couldn't believe that they were Digg up a story that was talking negatively about their actions. But I figured that maybe they were just legitimate Ron Paul supporters, and not Spammers, and therefore were as annoyed as the other 99% of Digg at the ridiculous amount of meaningless Obama stories that get railroaded to the front page.
But then I checked today. Suddenly my submission has just FIVE Diggs. Ten people who gave it a Digg last night have retracted their Digg. And I will give you 1 guess which Diggers were the ones that are no longer on the list.
And that is the hilarious part. Just like with RonPaulians several months ago, Obama spammers are now just doing a search on Obama in the upcoming queue, and blindly digg EVERY story. So, 10 people dugg my story before realizing that it was anti-Obama spam. (Not anti-Obama, but anti-SPAM for Obama.) After they realized it (or were probably told via an Obama forum that posts stories that should be dugg) they quickly came back and undugg it.
I don't know if you would call that proof, but I think it would hold up in a court of law.
I points out that if the Obama spammers keep it up, they could be facing the same fate as early as April...a good 6 months before the general election. Half a year of not seeing ANY Obama story on the front page. Ever.
A funny thing happened to my submission. At one point late last night (early this morning, actually) the story had at least 15 Diggs. For the hell of it, I checked the WHO DUGG THIS list and the Digg history of the people who dugg it. I was shocked to find several people with Obama in their candidates list, and who joined Digg in the last month. I couldn't believe that they were Digg up a story that was talking negatively about their actions. But I figured that maybe they were just legitimate Ron Paul supporters, and not Spammers, and therefore were as annoyed as the other 99% of Digg at the ridiculous amount of meaningless Obama stories that get railroaded to the front page.
But then I checked today. Suddenly my submission has just FIVE Diggs. Ten people who gave it a Digg last night have retracted their Digg. And I will give you 1 guess which Diggers were the ones that are no longer on the list.
And that is the hilarious part. Just like with RonPaulians several months ago, Obama spammers are now just doing a search on Obama in the upcoming queue, and blindly digg EVERY story. So, 10 people dugg my story before realizing that it was anti-Obama spam. (Not anti-Obama, but anti-SPAM for Obama.) After they realized it (or were probably told via an Obama forum that posts stories that should be dugg) they quickly came back and undugg it.
I don't know if you would call that proof, but I think it would hold up in a court of law.
Ahhhh, those wacky Obama supporters...
It amazes me that anyone on Digg for the past 6 months could POSSIBLY think it is a good idea to spam Digg for a candidate. It started with Ron Paul, and not the Obama spam is far worse than Ron Paul's ever wasn.
THINK about it for a second, children...what happened with Ron Paul? After a couple months of putting up with his crap, Digg got sick and tired an and correctly buried it for the SPAM that it is. Hence, it became harder and harder to make the front page. Finally the RonPaulians had to resort to creating more and more multiple accounts, thus making those accounts virtually worthless when it comes to digging something to the front page. And now, you never see a Ron Paul story on the front page.
This is already starting to happen with Obama supporters. Take a look at the early Diggs of many of the worthless Obama spam. You will find an inordinate number of accounts that were created in the last 6 weeks, and all have done nothing but digg Obama stories. Coincidence? I think not.
There are still almost 8 months away until the general election. If Obama does end up winning, do you really want to have a virtual Digg ban on all Obama stories? Get buried enough for your 20 front page stories a day and that is very well what could happen. How will that help the man?
Legitimate stories are one thing. But every time Obama takes a crap, you do not have to submit a story saying that you stuck your nose in it and it smelled like roses. Keep that up and you will see Obama backlash that will keep him from the front page ever.
Again...it is AMAZING that you are all too stupid to see that.
THINK about it for a second, children...what happened with Ron Paul? After a couple months of putting up with his crap, Digg got sick and tired an and correctly buried it for the SPAM that it is. Hence, it became harder and harder to make the front page. Finally the RonPaulians had to resort to creating more and more multiple accounts, thus making those accounts virtually worthless when it comes to digging something to the front page. And now, you never see a Ron Paul story on the front page.
This is already starting to happen with Obama supporters. Take a look at the early Diggs of many of the worthless Obama spam. You will find an inordinate number of accounts that were created in the last 6 weeks, and all have done nothing but digg Obama stories. Coincidence? I think not.
There are still almost 8 months away until the general election. If Obama does end up winning, do you really want to have a virtual Digg ban on all Obama stories? Get buried enough for your 20 front page stories a day and that is very well what could happen. How will that help the man?
Legitimate stories are one thing. But every time Obama takes a crap, you do not have to submit a story saying that you stuck your nose in it and it smelled like roses. Keep that up and you will see Obama backlash that will keep him from the front page ever.
Again...it is AMAZING that you are all too stupid to see that.
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